Hi, I've tried to pinpoint the issue, I had 2 servers connecting 2 servers not connecting even with telnet.
I've rebooted the server few times it didn't work before, now rebooting the servers I can telnet, updated to new version 7.0.18 and was able to setup the mail configuration
the strange issue was that I was able to ping the mail host but not telnet 25, 22, even 443, like outgoing connection to that server were blocked, I can telnet google at 443, I checked the remote mail server firewall it was not blocking and finally rebooting the local server solved the issue. I've rebooted it few times before when I was testing it didn't help before.

strange issue but solved for now, I'll monitor and see if the problem returns
Thanks